Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Saturday, June 13, 2009

Tehran Erupts on Ahmadinejad "Victory"

by anderson


When I saw a picture of an Iranian polling station in the IHT this morning, I thought, uh oh.

For there, front and center, was pictured a computer screen on the registration desk.  Women were crammed into the building, apparently agitated.  A "glitch," or multiple "glitches," in the system were bunging things up.  That, and a very high turnout -- usually spelling doom for any incumbent -- was causing long lines and extended voting hours.

Yes, we know that story here, too.

There, the similarity with the US presidential election of 2004 ends.  Iranians have erupted in protest at the apparent theft of the presidential election.

Thousands of opposition supporters have clashed with police after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the winner of Iran's presidential poll.



Secret police have been attacked, while riot police used batons and tear gas against backers of Mir Hossein Mousavi, who called the results a "charade".



The official results gave Mr Ahmadinejad 63% of the vote and 34% for Mr Mousavi. Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei praised the high turnout of 85%, described the count as a "real celebration" and called for calm.

As incredulous as 63% might be, western media have been bent on playing up the resistance to Ahmadinejad. I'm never really sure if we are seeing only a small demographic in western media. But Iranians, like any nominal population of people -- are reasonable human beings. They have had it with the extremism of Ahmadinejad. Some view the result with such disgust, they're willing to take a police beating for protesting it. 

And they are taking a beating. Many, actually.

My, it's just like the Shah and SAVAK, all over again.  But for the Islamic Revolution.

I can scarcely imagine how Iranians wouldn't be sick of that shit.


6 comments:

  1. No it is never going to be like the 70's. What is reported here is often a fraction of the population. It disturbs me that Ahmadinejad's share has surpassed my prediction 60%, but to say it is a fraud or a coup is just unrealistic.
    Obviously the WESTERN media try to help the drumbeat of douchebaggery. I am neither surprised nor disturbed by the report of an imaginary fraud.
    What I hate is the urban bias with which the iranian society is looked down on as if the part of my family in Esfahan who voted for Ahmadinejad are less reasonable than us in Texas who did not vote for him.
    One more thought. There are secular people who supported ahmadinejad. Do you think you are ever going to hear from them in what BBC reports? for them it was a vote against oligarchy.

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  2. Yes, I always suspect western sources. As Steve said earlier, western media types will tend toward the cities, if not remain in Tehran alone, talk to English-speaking urbanites, and think they have a handle on the national mood.
    There seems some obvious discontent, but just how widespread it is or is not is never conveyed over here. Further suspicions fall upon the State Dept., NED, etc., and their continual efforts in velvet revolutions, pumping millions into various student groups, parties, etc., that are generally designed for pre-election, media friendly rallies and post-election protest.
    As far as the urban/rural rift goes, well, we see US media playing up that apparent divide for all it is worth here as well. You only need to go back to the 2004 election here to see the media's simple mindedness about "red states" and "blue states."
    Reports in today suggest that there are protests occurring in 130 cities across Iran. If A'madi Nejad really won by that margin, these protests ought to wind down soon. Unlike the blatant ripoff in Mexico in 2006, where millions protested (and were mostly ignored by the US media), if these urban-based protest are unsupported by anything other than State Department funding, well, they won't last long.
    Thanks for the comments and your perspective.
    Ken

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  3. As a point of information, Juan Cole (someone I do trust to try to bring us the real story in Middle East) has a run-down of election theft "evidence." Ok, it is not so much evidence as it is reasoning about some of the bizarre results.
    Stealing the Iranian Election
    Worth a look. Note, that even with the generally understood urban discontent with A'medi Nejad, the electoral results have him winning many unlikely urban areas, including Tehran.

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  4. Here is a good piece by Abbas Barzegar in The Guardian, basically affirming that the Mousavi movement was blown out of proportion by western media and officials.
    Wishful Thinking from Tehran.

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  5. One small problem with your argument, Behrooz. Those are not people from the Western media rioting in the streets of Tehran. They are Iranians.
    You blame the West if it rains too hard, or if it doesn't rain at all. This is a problem for the Muslim clerics who rule Iran. It is not a problem caused by the West.

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  6. "Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country�s religious leadership."
    Preparing the Battlefield, The New Yorker, July 7, 2008
    Won't if be fun Pug, when China and Russia get to spend millions, buying the elections they want, in the West?

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