Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Wednesday, July 29, 2009

The Professor and the Cop

Commentary By Ron Beasley


Obama has been criticized for his statement that  Sgt. James Crowley did something stupid when he arrested Professor Henry Louis Gates.  Obama has been forced to back track and the right wing has been quick to scream racists.  Radley Balko was the first to suggest that we were missing the point - Sgt. Crowley's actions were not just stupid they were illegal.



By any account of what happened�Gates', Crowleys', or some version in between�Gates should never have been arrested. "Contempt of cop," as it's sometimes called, isn't a crime. Or at least it shouldn't be. It may be impolite, but mouthing off to police is protected speech, all the more so if your anger and insults are related to a perceived violation of your rights. The "disorderly conduct" charge for which Gates was arrested was intended to prevent riots, not to prevent cops from enduring insults. Crowley is owed an apology for being portrayed as a racist, but he ought to be disciplined for making a wrongful arrest.


Well Balko is not alone and Gates is getting some support from unlikely places.  The first is FOX News legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano:





Boy that must have driven the wingnut bigots over the edge.  They will be screaming for his head along with that of Shep Smith. 


In addition Harvey A. Silverglate writing in the liberal rag Forbes reminds us there is First Amendment right to be rude to a cop.



By longstanding but unfortunate (and, in my view, clearly unconstitutional) practice in Cambridge and across the country, the charge of disorderly conduct is frequently lodged when the citizen restricts his response to the officer to mere verbal unpleasantness. (When the citizen gets physically unruly, the charge is upgraded to resisting arrest or assault and battery on an officer.) It would appear, from the available evidence--regardless of whether Gates' version or that of Officer Crowley is accepted--that Gates was arrested for saying, or perhaps yelling, things to Crowley that the sergeant did not want to hear.


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This gets us to the heart of the matter. Under well-established First Amendment jurisprudence, what Gates said to Crowley--even assuming the worst--is fully constitutionally protected. After all, even "offensive" speech is covered by the First Amendment's very broad umbrella. Think about it: We wouldn't even need a First Amendment if everyone restricted himself or herself to soothing platitudes. I've been doing First Amendment law for a long time and I've never had to represent someone for praising a police officer or other public official. It is those who burn the flag, not those who wave it, who need protection.


Go read the entire thing.


Perhaps Crowley deserves an apology for being labeled but what he did was not only stupid it was illegal.


I think we know why the charges against Gates were dropped like a hot patato - it was Crowely who broke the law not Gates.



4 comments:

  1. John Caruso has an interesting note and discussion on the Gates incident at his Distant Ocean place. I tend to agree with his assessment.

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  2. Geoff
    I can't really argue with much that Caruso says about Gates but that doesn't change the fact that Crowely did not follow the law and this might not have happened if he had.

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  3. This argument is a pointless technicality. Gates was certainly guilty of the following Massachusetts statute:
    Neglect or refusal to assist officer or watchman

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  4. It's surely not surprising that Napolitano took this position -- he is a raging anti-state libertarian (which I rather enjoy at times, though he has yowled about Roosevelt the communist) and he is nothing if not consistently so. He hated Bush for being an authoritarian fascist.
    What is also not surprising is that Fox News now has a raging anti-state libertarian on the tube, now that Obama is in the White House. Napolitano probably thinks Obama is a communist. And if that is true, he'll be on Fox News a whole lot more.

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