Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Friday, October 9, 2009

Afghans Confused By Obama's Peace Prize

By Steve Hynd


Afghan reaction to Obama's Nobel is confused. Laura King, in Kabul, went asking:



"I'm not sure I understand -- this isn't for peace here, is it?" said bank worker Homaira Reza. "Because we haven't got any."

Irfan Mohammed, whose shop windows were rattled a day earlier by a massive blast outside the Indian Embassy in central Kabul, said he believed Obama was a good man, and perhaps deserving of the laurel.

"But so far as Afghanistan goes, he hasn't made up his mind what to do," Mohammed said.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai, whose relations with the Obama administration have been distinctly chilly, congratulated the U.S. leader, expressing hopes that with Obama's "vision and leadership . . . peace and normalcy will return to Afghanistan and our region."


Karzai's a dishonest ass-suck who knows that at present he has his position only because he's protected by U.S. guns.


Here's what Obama should do with the prize money, a not inconsiderable sum: donate it to Afghan charities working to help civilian casualties of the conflict. That'd be the right thing to do.


Update: Pakistani's are confused too, when they're not outraged.



"Today's bomb blast in Peshawar, where [at least] 40 have been killed, is a reaction to the policies of Obama and the government of Pakistan. There is something very wrong with this decision," says Abdul Ghaffar Aziz, director of foreign affairs of the Jamaat-e-Islami, an Islamist political party.


Nasir Ali, an Islamabad taxi driver, says, "everyone I know curses Obama, and if he was here in front of me, I would curse him, too."


Some, like Rabia Shahid, a law-college lecturer in the eastern city of Lahore, had a more measured reaction. "It seems like the decision revolves around his charisma and all the hype surrounding his presidency, and the euphoria after the Bush years. Closing Guant�mo was a good start, but you really need more results," she says.


Cyril Almeida, the assistant editor of Dawn, a leading English daily, says that the decision is likely to fuel cynicism, even among moderates. "The real point is that when somebody is given a Nobel Peace Prize, you shouldn't have to think hard about why they have it," he says. "It should be obvious. This decision will be met at the least by a collective scratching of heads, if not genuine disbelief."


"The real point is that when somebody is given a Nobel Peace Prize, you shouldn't have to think hard about why they have it." That's the most accurate summation I've seen so far today.



3 comments:

  1. Thanks, Steve. Apparently someone forgot to tell the Afghans and Pakistanis that war is peace.

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  2. President Obama's only real diplomatic accomplishment so far has been to change the direction and tone of American foreign policy from unilateral bullying to multilateral listening and cooperating. That's important, to be sure, but not nearly enough. The Prize is really more of a Booby Prize for Obama's predecessors. Had the world not suffered eight years of George W. Bush/Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney, Obama would not be receiving the Prize. He's prizeworthy and praiseworthy only by comparison.
    http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-obama-should-not-have-received.html

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  3. 'War is Peace'. That's the right take on this outrageous buffoonery, to be sure: Orwell.
    Most have not noticed - for whatever reason - that Obama's accomplishments are to run up a fine list of broken promises.
    Too soon to do anything ?
    Not too soon to attack Afghanistan and Pakistan and set the headhunters loose to take potshots at 'Targets of Opportunity' regardless of national borders.
    They call that 'nation building' where you hail from ?
    But the NPT garbage was just too far over the top. The malicious bastards in charge think they are funny - who else would give a peace award to the head of the most murderous nation on the planet ? - but Obama has incessantly continued the lie that Iran is a nuclear danger.
    Holy flying fuck! Excuse my language, but that is so ridiculous I don't know where to start poking holes in it. Perhaps I'll ask Moscow why they are 'enabling' a nuclear danger in their back yard.
    Mr. Cheney & Co. have exceeded themselves with imagination on this tripe. Better yet, I'll ask Valerie Plame/Wilson. You remember her. CIA NOC 'outed' from her position sitting at the Middle East Nuclear Threat desk at the C.I.A. There's the gift that keeps on giving.
    Read Sibel Edmonds' stuff or checked on BradBlog lately ?
    Diplomatic accomplishments. Changing the mood.
    Right. Ask Gitmo detainees - or Bagram ones( yep. That's getting BIGGER. )
    'Change You Can Believe In.' You go right ahead. I'm having a difficult time with the consistency of this bullshit.
    I'm still scratching my head at the war 'budget' of the Bankrupt Nation.

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